On Episode 19, Sam and Jack sit down with Jeff Heuerman and talk about his football career from not playing football at all in Florida to being recruited to play at Ohio State University. Jeff talks about transitioning from Jim Tressel to Urban Meyer, how unsure he was about staying there or going elsewhere, and how he found his place. We touch on Jeff's role as a leader during his time at OSU, the role Coach Meyer had in sculpting his leadership skills and how he applied them on the field. We cover the 2015 National Championship season, the story of why Jeff wore #5 and the story behind the three different quarterbacks that led them to the inevitable championship. Part 2 of this interview will be out later this week.